It is unfortunate that Obama started and Biden has now continued to isolate Israel which has led to greater anti sematic feelings among US and World citizens. People are now supporting Hamas and their unholy war against Israel without even knowing the first thing about Iran, Hamas, Hezbollah, and the Hoothis. War has been raging for 3+ years in Ukraine with ZERO calls for a ceasefire but Biden is hell bent on forcing a ceasefire on Israel after 9 months of fighting which is so close to being completed.
What, precisely, does Israel do for us other than attempt to drag us into all of their petty conflicts?
The people who try to justify this relationship, by saying that the financial aid is used to buys weapons from U.S. manufacturers, and that this boosts the economy are economically illiterate.
Let's just look at the logic.
1. Government takes your money by force (taxation).
2. They give your money to Israel.
3. Israel buys weapons from a handful of U.S. weapons manufacturers.
What's funny, of course, is that this is no different than allowing the manufacturer to tax you.
But what's even funnier, is that the people who support sending financial "aid" to israel for the purpose of buying weapons are the same people who would protest if the weapons manufacturer was allowed to tax them directly.
It's the same thing, but they're just too stupid to see it.
It's like giving 20% of your earnings to the business next door, then claiming it boosts the economy, as if that 20% couldn't be spent elsewhere (and probably in a better way).
It's a racket. Economic illiteracy in this country will be its downfall.
Among the numerous false tropes. Israel has never dragged us into any conflict. Not a single one. They always fight their own battles. In any case hamas started this war.
What does Israel do for us? Provides us with technology like missile defense systems along with improving upon the technology of the planes and other munitions we send to them, and intelligence.
I have faith that the people living here can do that themselves. Amercians are quite innovative. And if we do need an expert from Israel, we can certainly pay them a salary. We don't need to send billions of tax dollars.
About the same amount goes to Egypt. I'm guessing you haven't complained about that or the money we send to the terrorist "palestinians" and their other terrorist rulers the PA. Or the money we're giving to Iran etc.
LOL, we have a multitrillion dollar yearly budget. A fraction of that, less than 3%, is defense spending overall. A fraction of that is spent for weapons to Israel. Yet here you are obsessively focusing on that relatively miniscule amount for Israeli defense as if that's the basis of all of our economic and deficit problems.
This comment doesn't make any sense. It's like saying: "the credit card is maxed out anyways, so who cares if we pay for Israeli's weapons."
It's like saying we're spending unecessarily, but it's only a small amount of the total unecessary spending, so it's okay.
That's not good logic. LOL.
You support taking money from the American taxpayer and sending it to Israel because you are a bit of a radical. You have vested interest in Israel. Palestinian Americans want american tax dollars going to Palestine. Irish Americans want tax dollars going to Ireland. They don't now, but they used to many years ago.
But the reality is that 99% of taxpayers don't give a damn about Israel, about your ethnic interests, not because they're anti-semite, but because it's not their country. And most are not jewish. They'd prefer to spend money on things they want and need, as opposed to things another country wants and needs. And that's a reasonable view. What's unreasonable, and quite selfish, is to ask the majority of Americans who want to focus on America to send their tax money to Israel, and subsequently subsidize weapons manufacturers.
Why don't you spend your own money? Why don't you send your paycheck to Israel. Or better yet, why not just pay the weapons manufacturer and ask them to ship it to Israel?
Dershowitz says that Biden's long, long overdue decision to halt one single, tiny arms shipment is foolish and immoral. Well, Dershowitz is certainly an expert on immorality. He made a career of it, befriending Jeffrey Epstein (Vanity Fair 2003 details the depth of this friendship, arm in arm singing together "On the Boardwalk" it, reads like a love affair), then protecting Epstein from law enforcement and later from punishment, playing with the underage girlswho all knew him and in ways according to some accusations violated a criminal statute, paying off his accusers and claiming this proves the accusations were untrue, walking about in his underpants on the second floor of the densely girl-populated Epstein mansion and even lazily plagiarizing Joan Peters, according to Dr Finkelstein, not that plagiarism has the same degree of immorality scale .The list needs to stop here because there is too much in the course of his 85 years:L Dershowitz's epitaph- - -"a man never to be deterred by a moral argument". So with this expertise in the Immoral, maybe Dershowitz should betaken seriously for once in his Jewish defense diatribes, and his descrption of our beloved President (heavy irony).
No. Don't think so. Supplying 2000 pound bombs to the IDF gives the IDF an iresistable temptation to use them on concentrated civilian areas. Israelis are very unlike Americans. Israelis are like an unhinged Arlo Guthrie in Alices Restaurant, shouting "Kill, kill, kill" whenever they see someone who seems non-Jewish. Should we understand that when 90% of Israelis approve of the genocide, that is only a temporary phenomonen and that Israelis will return eventually to a respect for morailty?. You could have said the same about Germans in the 1940's, yet punishment was deserved. AIPAC will surely get the American House of Representatives to dutifully pass a resolution condemning the ICC indictment of Gallant and Netanyahu. But the resolution will have no effect because the whole world knows AIPAC has purchased the necessary votes. The only consequence will be that no one will consult America when assessing a moral judgement. Money has fully replaced moraltiy in America, just as Dershowitz has practiced his life. And no one conceivably consults Dershowitz for his moral viewpoint.. On the other hand, Dershowitz probably knows a lot about maintenence of a harem. He is delusional to write about morality given his history.
I do believe that you are beginning to see the light, professor. Democrats are pro Hamas and anti Israel. I don't see how the Jewish people can continue to support an administration that is giving tacit, if not actual, support to antisemites both here and internationally. This not the America I grew up in, and not the Democrat party I remember. Say what you will about President Trump, but he has been an unwavering supporter of Israel and the true democracy it represents in the Middle East.
Maybe that is why the left is persecuting him. As he says, he is in their way. The Jews have suffered enough. They don't need to be stabbed in the back by the Democrats while simultaneously fighting the terrorists all around them.
P.S. Change "ever" to "never," fourth paragraph, end of first sentence.
"Jews have suffered enough". But that does not give individual Jews an Alex Acosta type immunity for the crimes they commit. ("Who is Acosta?", you ask. He is the poor excuse for a federal DA who gave Dershowitz immunity for all activity connected to the Epstein child trafficking blackmail operation) . Jews as a group and collective have suffered enough BUT NOT the individual jews planning, inciting, directing and carryijg out the Gaza genocide. Thinking here of the coming arrest warrant for Messrs. Gallant and Netanyahu. You will probably get an emergency request on your telephone or in your mailbox from AIPAC for a super high donation since Congressmen now will be demanding more "campaign support" to vote as directed by AIPAC.
Obama promised to "transform America". To paraphrase one Democratic operative , this means reshaping the Democrat Party long term. This means jettisoning any support for Israel as long as the woke base of the young and the intersectional coaliton is satisfied-I see a lot of similarities between this election and 1968-when LBJ declined to run, and the Democratic base sat out the election after RFK was assassinated, Humphrey was nominated and the riots in Chicago were shown on national televison with the result that Nixon was elected narrowly over Humphrey even with Wallace running a third party candidate The result was the Democrats adopted the so called McGovern Commission rules that curtailed the roles of party bosses like Mayor Daley and gave primaries and superdelegates the keys to the nomination and produced liberal candidates who were rejected at the polls with the Democrats being in the political wilderness re the Presidency until Clinton ran as a moderate in 1992. This party is in the process of being completely Corbinized not just with respect to its past legacy of support of Israel but being the party where the Marxist and anti Semitic doctrines of CRT and DEI are supreme. Don't be shocked if many in the American Jewish community either sit the election out or even vote for Trump, with or without holding their noses
How does financing Israel's bottom-less military expenses benefit the interests of the American taxpayer?
If you haven't noticed, America's economy is in a lot of trouble. Hence, agitating for people who are barely surviving to sacrifice even more for a foreign country is relatively offensive.
Remember btw 1) it took 14 years to get Israel to agree to pay economic compensation to decedents' families which 2) Israel then said it could not afford so the compensation had to be taken from increased economic aid from the USA to Israel and 3) the Israeli pilot was never punished for killing 67 American sailors without provocation, he served out his entire service unpunished - - -not even reprimanded - - - in the Israeli Air Force, finally retired when reaching the age limit. Israel had refused to extradite him to America for trial. As of two years ago a report I read stated he was still living as a hero and in comfort
FURTHERMORE Israel could not become the 51st State because the nation refuses to recognize as fundamental American values of equal justice for all, equal rights .due process Alabama was required to change from being an Apartheid State by those values interpreted in Brown v. Board of Education and then by the 1964 Civil Rights Law. Actually George Wallace was a dead ringer for Netanyahu.. If Wallace had been protecting a Jewish elite rather thasn a White elite, Dershowitz would have idolized him-
They’ve got the #Trumpster “dead to rights” if all Twelve (12) brave jurors in Manhattan vote to convict the #Orange-McMuffin for withholding key info prior to his original year 2016 election “steal”.
The organized crime family masquerading as the Democratic Party has not just turned its back on Israel, It has turned its back on civilization. They are now getting ready to use Jews as the scapegoat for their massive failures. You know how that will turn out. The only thing that can turn this around is MAGA.
DEI was already a good enough reason to leave the party. The people who argue that DEI is a fringe belief have not been paying attention. The post modernists control academy and most of Wall Street, if only because they threaten to defund (sell shares or disinvest) in any company that doesn't subscribe to their view: these threats are coming from BlackRock, State Street and Vanguard with a combined 40-50T in assets under management. And so to appease the three thugs, every other company must now hire DEI losers to be part of their staff.
And the democrat party is playing along, which reveals just how radical the leadership really is. Nancy Pelosi, Chuck Schumer, and Joe Biden are thugs. The only thing standing between those three and their cultural revolusion is the constitution.
It is not just the "squad". The disease goes a lot deeper.
Professor, you are absolutely correct. You'd better think twice before you vote Democrat ever again, you've been fooled twice already....lol...you are a great lawyer, the best.....but quite naive when it comes to politics.
Dershowitz previously laid out his "red line" for withdrawing his support for Biden: withholding arms from Israel. Now he simply ignores his prior red-line.
You take him far too seriously. He does not remember what he said before, and certainly does not feel bound by it. . He is strictly "stream of consciousness".
Have mercy. He is very, very old. Considerably older than even Biden! Dershowitz is not healthy. His pallor is terrible and has been for at least two decades, he has been afflicted by mini-strokes, Sara Ransom in 2005 gave a sworn affadavit description of his naked body. Since minors read these comments, I suggest you google it if you think you sleep too much.. He is angry all the time. His arguments angrily go directly to ad hominem attacks rather than substantive analysis. His memory is going. ...and of course he really is angry all the time. "Rage, Rage when going into that dark forest" (Robert Frost- - -Dersh plagiarizes, I do not). ...he is scared of death, so he tries to distract himself with his podcasts...and his anger. He has become like that angy old man on The Muppets. He has a limited range of epithets to use against students, Israel critics, Black administrators, now Senator Schumer and other "self-hating Jews". His opinions are not to be taken seriously. To start with , he never researches the content of his opinions. He used to hire young girls as research assistents (never boys), but dropped them approaching his eighties since he goes on automatic pilot now, just aiming for the attention and distraction from mortality. I think it is elder abuse for Substack to give him a platform.
It is unfortunate that Obama started and Biden has now continued to isolate Israel which has led to greater anti sematic feelings among US and World citizens. People are now supporting Hamas and their unholy war against Israel without even knowing the first thing about Iran, Hamas, Hezbollah, and the Hoothis. War has been raging for 3+ years in Ukraine with ZERO calls for a ceasefire but Biden is hell bent on forcing a ceasefire on Israel after 9 months of fighting which is so close to being completed.
The war in Ukraine has been going on for 2+ years.
How is it mutually beneficial?
Israel asks for money. We send money.
Israel asks for weapons. We send weapons.
What, precisely, does Israel do for us other than attempt to drag us into all of their petty conflicts?
The people who try to justify this relationship, by saying that the financial aid is used to buys weapons from U.S. manufacturers, and that this boosts the economy are economically illiterate.
Let's just look at the logic.
1. Government takes your money by force (taxation).
2. They give your money to Israel.
3. Israel buys weapons from a handful of U.S. weapons manufacturers.
What's funny, of course, is that this is no different than allowing the manufacturer to tax you.
But what's even funnier, is that the people who support sending financial "aid" to israel for the purpose of buying weapons are the same people who would protest if the weapons manufacturer was allowed to tax them directly.
It's the same thing, but they're just too stupid to see it.
It's like giving 20% of your earnings to the business next door, then claiming it boosts the economy, as if that 20% couldn't be spent elsewhere (and probably in a better way).
It's a racket. Economic illiteracy in this country will be its downfall.
"What, precisely, does Israel do for us other than attempt to drag us into all of their petty conflicts?"
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Among the numerous false tropes. Israel has never dragged us into any conflict. Not a single one. They always fight their own battles. In any case hamas started this war.
What does Israel do for us? Provides us with technology like missile defense systems along with improving upon the technology of the planes and other munitions we send to them, and intelligence.
I have faith that the people living here can do that themselves. Amercians are quite innovative. And if we do need an expert from Israel, we can certainly pay them a salary. We don't need to send billions of tax dollars.
Remember the USS Liberty!!!
About the same amount goes to Egypt. I'm guessing you haven't complained about that or the money we send to the terrorist "palestinians" and their other terrorist rulers the PA. Or the money we're giving to Iran etc.
Why would you "guess, I haven't complained about aid going to Egypt or Palestine?" Did you read what I wrote? Are you able to comprehend it?
LOL, we have a multitrillion dollar yearly budget. A fraction of that, less than 3%, is defense spending overall. A fraction of that is spent for weapons to Israel. Yet here you are obsessively focusing on that relatively miniscule amount for Israeli defense as if that's the basis of all of our economic and deficit problems.
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"1. Government takes your money by force (taxation).
2. They give your money to Israel".
This comment doesn't make any sense. It's like saying: "the credit card is maxed out anyways, so who cares if we pay for Israeli's weapons."
It's like saying we're spending unecessarily, but it's only a small amount of the total unecessary spending, so it's okay.
That's not good logic. LOL.
You support taking money from the American taxpayer and sending it to Israel because you are a bit of a radical. You have vested interest in Israel. Palestinian Americans want american tax dollars going to Palestine. Irish Americans want tax dollars going to Ireland. They don't now, but they used to many years ago.
But the reality is that 99% of taxpayers don't give a damn about Israel, about your ethnic interests, not because they're anti-semite, but because it's not their country. And most are not jewish. They'd prefer to spend money on things they want and need, as opposed to things another country wants and needs. And that's a reasonable view. What's unreasonable, and quite selfish, is to ask the majority of Americans who want to focus on America to send their tax money to Israel, and subsequently subsidize weapons manufacturers.
Why don't you spend your own money? Why don't you send your paycheck to Israel. Or better yet, why not just pay the weapons manufacturer and ask them to ship it to Israel?
Dershowitz says that Biden's long, long overdue decision to halt one single, tiny arms shipment is foolish and immoral. Well, Dershowitz is certainly an expert on immorality. He made a career of it, befriending Jeffrey Epstein (Vanity Fair 2003 details the depth of this friendship, arm in arm singing together "On the Boardwalk" it, reads like a love affair), then protecting Epstein from law enforcement and later from punishment, playing with the underage girlswho all knew him and in ways according to some accusations violated a criminal statute, paying off his accusers and claiming this proves the accusations were untrue, walking about in his underpants on the second floor of the densely girl-populated Epstein mansion and even lazily plagiarizing Joan Peters, according to Dr Finkelstein, not that plagiarism has the same degree of immorality scale .The list needs to stop here because there is too much in the course of his 85 years:L Dershowitz's epitaph- - -"a man never to be deterred by a moral argument". So with this expertise in the Immoral, maybe Dershowitz should betaken seriously for once in his Jewish defense diatribes, and his descrption of our beloved President (heavy irony).
No. Don't think so. Supplying 2000 pound bombs to the IDF gives the IDF an iresistable temptation to use them on concentrated civilian areas. Israelis are very unlike Americans. Israelis are like an unhinged Arlo Guthrie in Alices Restaurant, shouting "Kill, kill, kill" whenever they see someone who seems non-Jewish. Should we understand that when 90% of Israelis approve of the genocide, that is only a temporary phenomonen and that Israelis will return eventually to a respect for morailty?. You could have said the same about Germans in the 1940's, yet punishment was deserved. AIPAC will surely get the American House of Representatives to dutifully pass a resolution condemning the ICC indictment of Gallant and Netanyahu. But the resolution will have no effect because the whole world knows AIPAC has purchased the necessary votes. The only consequence will be that no one will consult America when assessing a moral judgement. Money has fully replaced moraltiy in America, just as Dershowitz has practiced his life. And no one conceivably consults Dershowitz for his moral viewpoint.. On the other hand, Dershowitz probably knows a lot about maintenence of a harem. He is delusional to write about morality given his history.
I do believe that you are beginning to see the light, professor. Democrats are pro Hamas and anti Israel. I don't see how the Jewish people can continue to support an administration that is giving tacit, if not actual, support to antisemites both here and internationally. This not the America I grew up in, and not the Democrat party I remember. Say what you will about President Trump, but he has been an unwavering supporter of Israel and the true democracy it represents in the Middle East.
Maybe that is why the left is persecuting him. As he says, he is in their way. The Jews have suffered enough. They don't need to be stabbed in the back by the Democrats while simultaneously fighting the terrorists all around them.
P.S. Change "ever" to "never," fourth paragraph, end of first sentence.
"Jews have suffered enough". But that does not give individual Jews an Alex Acosta type immunity for the crimes they commit. ("Who is Acosta?", you ask. He is the poor excuse for a federal DA who gave Dershowitz immunity for all activity connected to the Epstein child trafficking blackmail operation) . Jews as a group and collective have suffered enough BUT NOT the individual jews planning, inciting, directing and carryijg out the Gaza genocide. Thinking here of the coming arrest warrant for Messrs. Gallant and Netanyahu. You will probably get an emergency request on your telephone or in your mailbox from AIPAC for a super high donation since Congressmen now will be demanding more "campaign support" to vote as directed by AIPAC.
Obama promised to "transform America". To paraphrase one Democratic operative , this means reshaping the Democrat Party long term. This means jettisoning any support for Israel as long as the woke base of the young and the intersectional coaliton is satisfied-I see a lot of similarities between this election and 1968-when LBJ declined to run, and the Democratic base sat out the election after RFK was assassinated, Humphrey was nominated and the riots in Chicago were shown on national televison with the result that Nixon was elected narrowly over Humphrey even with Wallace running a third party candidate The result was the Democrats adopted the so called McGovern Commission rules that curtailed the roles of party bosses like Mayor Daley and gave primaries and superdelegates the keys to the nomination and produced liberal candidates who were rejected at the polls with the Democrats being in the political wilderness re the Presidency until Clinton ran as a moderate in 1992. This party is in the process of being completely Corbinized not just with respect to its past legacy of support of Israel but being the party where the Marxist and anti Semitic doctrines of CRT and DEI are supreme. Don't be shocked if many in the American Jewish community either sit the election out or even vote for Trump, with or without holding their noses
How does financing Israel's bottom-less military expenses benefit the interests of the American taxpayer?
If you haven't noticed, America's economy is in a lot of trouble. Hence, agitating for people who are barely surviving to sacrifice even more for a foreign country is relatively offensive.
News flash Israel is not the 51st state. Remember the USS LIBERTY
Remember btw 1) it took 14 years to get Israel to agree to pay economic compensation to decedents' families which 2) Israel then said it could not afford so the compensation had to be taken from increased economic aid from the USA to Israel and 3) the Israeli pilot was never punished for killing 67 American sailors without provocation, he served out his entire service unpunished - - -not even reprimanded - - - in the Israeli Air Force, finally retired when reaching the age limit. Israel had refused to extradite him to America for trial. As of two years ago a report I read stated he was still living as a hero and in comfort
FURTHERMORE Israel could not become the 51st State because the nation refuses to recognize as fundamental American values of equal justice for all, equal rights .due process Alabama was required to change from being an Apartheid State by those values interpreted in Brown v. Board of Education and then by the 1964 Civil Rights Law. Actually George Wallace was a dead ringer for Netanyahu.. If Wallace had been protecting a Jewish elite rather thasn a White elite, Dershowitz would have idolized him-
The lesson is that has always been the case, countries need to produce as much of their their own arms and munitions as possible.
As an example, where would the U.K. have been in 1940 had it not been able to produce its own Spitfire and Hurricane fighter planes?
Reliance on allies is dangerous as their priorities can change.
Yes, this will lead to a loss of business for the US arms industry but that cannot be the concern of its allies.
They’ve got the #Trumpster “dead to rights” if all Twelve (12) brave jurors in Manhattan vote to convict the #Orange-McMuffin for withholding key info prior to his original year 2016 election “steal”.
Yes the democrats have betrayed Israel .
The organized crime family masquerading as the Democratic Party has not just turned its back on Israel, It has turned its back on civilization. They are now getting ready to use Jews as the scapegoat for their massive failures. You know how that will turn out. The only thing that can turn this around is MAGA.
Your party. Congratulations on supporting Obiden.
DEI was already a good enough reason to leave the party. The people who argue that DEI is a fringe belief have not been paying attention. The post modernists control academy and most of Wall Street, if only because they threaten to defund (sell shares or disinvest) in any company that doesn't subscribe to their view: these threats are coming from BlackRock, State Street and Vanguard with a combined 40-50T in assets under management. And so to appease the three thugs, every other company must now hire DEI losers to be part of their staff.
And the democrat party is playing along, which reveals just how radical the leadership really is. Nancy Pelosi, Chuck Schumer, and Joe Biden are thugs. The only thing standing between those three and their cultural revolusion is the constitution.
It is not just the "squad". The disease goes a lot deeper.
Professor, you are absolutely correct. You'd better think twice before you vote Democrat ever again, you've been fooled twice already....lol...you are a great lawyer, the best.....but quite naive when it comes to politics.
were you conversant in the law, you would probably think he was naive there too.
Dershowitz previously laid out his "red line" for withdrawing his support for Biden: withholding arms from Israel. Now he simply ignores his prior red-line.
Zero credibility.
You take him far too seriously. He does not remember what he said before, and certainly does not feel bound by it. . He is strictly "stream of consciousness".
Apparently, he doesn't take himself seriously anymore, if he walks back his "red lines" and expects nobody to notice.
Have mercy. He is very, very old. Considerably older than even Biden! Dershowitz is not healthy. His pallor is terrible and has been for at least two decades, he has been afflicted by mini-strokes, Sara Ransom in 2005 gave a sworn affadavit description of his naked body. Since minors read these comments, I suggest you google it if you think you sleep too much.. He is angry all the time. His arguments angrily go directly to ad hominem attacks rather than substantive analysis. His memory is going. ...and of course he really is angry all the time. "Rage, Rage when going into that dark forest" (Robert Frost- - -Dersh plagiarizes, I do not). ...he is scared of death, so he tries to distract himself with his podcasts...and his anger. He has become like that angy old man on The Muppets. He has a limited range of epithets to use against students, Israel critics, Black administrators, now Senator Schumer and other "self-hating Jews". His opinions are not to be taken seriously. To start with , he never researches the content of his opinions. He used to hire young girls as research assistents (never boys), but dropped them approaching his eighties since he goes on automatic pilot now, just aiming for the attention and distraction from mortality. I think it is elder abuse for Substack to give him a platform.