Student groups at many elite universities -- including Harvard, Yale and Columbia, CUNY -- have come out in support of Hamas at a time when its terrorists have raped, murdered and kidnapped women, toddlers, the elderly and other civilians, and have reportedly
Prof I always enjoy reading your views. I agree wholeheartedly. If these people supported lynchings of black Americans, other people would be appalled and demand to see the names of those people supporting Hamas
I wrote an article sometime back where I concluded with the statement “The answer to bad speak isn't censorship, it's more speech.” it seems the professor and I are on the same page on this.
After Hamas is destroyed the situation will bear similarity to the aftermath of WW2 in Germany and in Rwanda after the 1994 genocide. In both instances genocidal regimes were militarily replaced by new governments. This is what will likely happen in Gaza and the West Bank. A new Palestinian government must be acceptable to Israel. That means no Hamas, no Fatah, no PLO, and all militant groups outlawed.
Had Hamas had the resources to do so the genocide would have been on the scale of the holocaust and Rwanda. Publish all the names of the genocide supporters.
Alan is being too nice. Let's get back to basics. The solution is that simple. Always follow the money. Talk is cheap. Start to tighten up on the money valve. In the case of CCNY, this is real simple, since they are funded primarily by New York City taxpayers and by many others. The "elite" one percent Ivy League schools, are all dependent on endowments, federal funding, and public services. This is doable. If I established a KKK chapter, or a Hamas chapter, or an Ayatollah Khomeini chapter, on campus, the response would be automatic. We need actions, not more words.
We know that the radical marxist group BLM is funded by State Street, Bain Capital, JP. Morgan, Bank of China, Google, Black Rock, Vanguard, etc, etc. Have we been able to place any political pressure on these institutions? They seem to be hell-bent on a corporate/state merger, similar to the CCP, and they are giving grants to radicals at Harvard, Yale, etc. Doxxing certainly won't fix that problem, but I'm not sure following the money fixes anything either. These firms are simply too powerful. They don't just have trillions under management, but they also control every MNC they invest in. They can choose the board members; they can threaten to sell shares which will effect the companies ongoing projects; they have a noose around the American economy and the American people, and they don't really care about the backlash because no news organization will dare to take them on.
If another state carried out even a fraction the actions that the giant asset managers, big tech and big pharma were guilty of, it would be clearly interpreted as hostile enemy action. Remember the hysteria and hype over putative Russian interference in the 2016 presidential elections?
I would argue that these corporations are akin to states, albeit without identifiable territories. In the past, rulers required land to provide wealth and soldiers in order to gain and hold power. Given that there are now other means of acquiring great wealth and influence, it is no longer necessary to hold territory in order to act like a state.
These corporations should be treated just like any other enemy state engaged in conquest, and it should be possible to declare war on them. They are effectively a newly emerged Fifth Estate, and they are determined to rule absolutely.
They are reactionaries, anti-enlightenment thugs, with one goal, one purpose: the preservation of their existence. Blockchain and its decentralization must be destroyed; closed networks; big entry barriers; ridicolously long patents; big firewalls, identity verification, top-down control, and big agenda's planned at an anti-democratic and anti-capitalist forum -- they will anything and everything that will preserve their size and power and influence over society; they are "globalist" in every sense of the word, and perhaps the biggest threat to liberty worldwide since the old globalist catholic order. They represent a return to the anti-science dogma that lockean and kantian ethics so powerfully liberated us from. But the age of those great thinkers are long gone; today, all we have are radical academics, psuedo intellectuals, mumbling and bumbling and prattling and babbling down Massachusetts Avenue.
Like John Gotti and Al Capone, these mega gangsters are on the march, using their social justice foot soldiers to pummel everyone into submission.
Do you really think this BEGINS in our Universities? This begins with the garbage children are fed by "leftist" teachers in Elementary and Secondary schools and reinforced in popular culture. While I agree that what is going on in our Universities is problematic ( how about free speech?!). the problem is far more deeply seeded.
The institutions which train teachers have been ideologically captured by the far left. Aspiring teachers are indoctrinated into the quasi-religious, Marxist ideology of Paolo Freire, a Brazilian Marxist linked to Liberation Theology. The result is that generations of children have had their education stolen from them and replaced with cult beliefs.
This has started. From an email from today's NY Daily News: "New York University’s student bar association voted to start the removal process of president Ryna Workman after she defended the Palestinian militant group Hamas’ deadly attack on Israeli civilians as “necessary” in a school-wide email."
I wholeheartedly disagree with their statements in support of Hamas... but doxxing students is not the answer - that only encourages more violence and you know it far too well. Shame on you. They already signed who they are through the organizations that signed the statements. Look up the members if you want to dox them.
Don’t shame the Professor. This is the time when humanity has to decide if they are going to support the beginning of another holocaust. Speak for those exterminated from the nazi gas chambers and death camps. What do you think they would have decided? Do you think they would have chosen to identify the nazi sympathizers at the onset of the slaughter and saved lives? Speak for the sacredness of life for every human being on earth, especially now for our Jewish brothers and sisters. Speak for the little tiny helpless infants gruesomely murdered by satanic barbarians. Have you ever agreed that we as citizens of the world would never let the holocaust happen again? College students are adults, we are tired of them ranting and raving about social Justice, labeling anyone who doesn’t publicly support them as racists, bigots or nazis. One famous trope of theirs is “silence is violence”. Well let’s listen.....Speak up and declare your support for good or cower with the evil. We have every right to call out these young adults who are playing with the dangerous idea that Jews are unworthy of their love or empathy. These universities, their bias professors and their naive students have a right to speak however they choose. They are presently using some pretty violent language. They will need to face the results of their allegiance. If they are publicly identified by public information then that is their fate. We need to stop treating these students like small children or adolescents trying to find themselves.
Hiring people based on their political views, or protesting outside their homes because they don't share your beliefs, sounds a lot like the BLM gangsters, and postmodernists who you are speaking out against.
I don't think stooping to their level is the appropriate course of action; asking for their names will only discourage them from saying anything publicly. It won't change the university, how they teach their students, who they sympathize with. There is a deeper problem here that doxxing doesn't solve.
Refusing to hire those who would happily mob and cancel those they disagree with sounds like fair turnaround. They certainly cannot object on principle.
There ought to be a wide lassitude on what views can be tolerated, no matter how strongly you disagree, but some allegiances are beyond the pale. Support for Hamas in the light of the atrocities they have just committed is such an intolerable position
Political views are an indication of an individuals work prefomance and employer/employee relationships. Will the individual respect authority and coworkers? Create a positive work environmnent or consistently cause problems? Will he/she respect the religious beliefs of coworkers? If the answer is no, that employee could potentially open the employer up to an lawsuit. I would never hire someone who defended and supported Hamas!
I’m sure many would not release their names because they don’t actually believe what the group is saying is their own stance. They know the idea of approving of atrocities is absurd. But they need the group.
I struggle with that too, but the bottom line they are the ones who went public with their support. So it's not so much doxxing as it is amplifying their own words. I certainly am 100% lynch mobs, proverbial or otherwise. Their person data such as email, phone, address should not be published. But holding up the doc and saying. This person said this or that.
I agree completely. That has been done to so many people by the ones who are supporting Hamas. The amount of people that have been shamed, loss their jobs and crucified in the press or SM for holding views these people don’t agree with is abhorrent. “What’s good for the goose is good for the gander!”
Incredible this is the thought in our higher institutions. Where has academics gone wrong? How do we deprogram these students before they enter our government institutions?
Think about this. How easy could someone puppet another unto violence by using their religious beliefs to make them extreme? The 5th Pillar of Islam. Who hasn't achieved it because they live in the Gaza Strip?
I think it’s important for us Jews to know who wants us dead. I don’t want her working on my behalf as an attorney, neither do the Jewish doctors at work.
Anonymity is a cloak for the cowardly. Freedom of speech does not mean one is free from criticism
Prof I always enjoy reading your views. I agree wholeheartedly. If these people supported lynchings of black Americans, other people would be appalled and demand to see the names of those people supporting Hamas
Winston & Strawn revoked a job offer to Ryna Workman, the NYU SBA president who stated that Israel bears full responsibility for the attacks. That is a real consequence. By the way, I am so proud of that law firm. https://news.bloomberglaw.com/business-and-practice/winston-scraps-nyu-law-students-job-offer-over-israel-email
It’s important to know who is supporting evil doers. I agree with you Professor Dershowitz.
I wrote an article sometime back where I concluded with the statement “The answer to bad speak isn't censorship, it's more speech.” it seems the professor and I are on the same page on this.
"Fellow students, future employers, and others should be able to judge their friends and potential employees by the views they have expressed"
They are, when expressing the view that biological sex matters and other crucial issues.
The carefully planned and cold-blooded murder of 1200 Israeli civilians in a single day does not seem to make the cut.
After Hamas is destroyed the situation will bear similarity to the aftermath of WW2 in Germany and in Rwanda after the 1994 genocide. In both instances genocidal regimes were militarily replaced by new governments. This is what will likely happen in Gaza and the West Bank. A new Palestinian government must be acceptable to Israel. That means no Hamas, no Fatah, no PLO, and all militant groups outlawed.
Had Hamas had the resources to do so the genocide would have been on the scale of the holocaust and Rwanda. Publish all the names of the genocide supporters.
I'd recommend clearing Gaza of "Palestinians" and extending Israel's border to the sea.
Alan is being too nice. Let's get back to basics. The solution is that simple. Always follow the money. Talk is cheap. Start to tighten up on the money valve. In the case of CCNY, this is real simple, since they are funded primarily by New York City taxpayers and by many others. The "elite" one percent Ivy League schools, are all dependent on endowments, federal funding, and public services. This is doable. If I established a KKK chapter, or a Hamas chapter, or an Ayatollah Khomeini chapter, on campus, the response would be automatic. We need actions, not more words.
We know that the radical marxist group BLM is funded by State Street, Bain Capital, JP. Morgan, Bank of China, Google, Black Rock, Vanguard, etc, etc. Have we been able to place any political pressure on these institutions? They seem to be hell-bent on a corporate/state merger, similar to the CCP, and they are giving grants to radicals at Harvard, Yale, etc. Doxxing certainly won't fix that problem, but I'm not sure following the money fixes anything either. These firms are simply too powerful. They don't just have trillions under management, but they also control every MNC they invest in. They can choose the board members; they can threaten to sell shares which will effect the companies ongoing projects; they have a noose around the American economy and the American people, and they don't really care about the backlash because no news organization will dare to take them on.
If another state carried out even a fraction the actions that the giant asset managers, big tech and big pharma were guilty of, it would be clearly interpreted as hostile enemy action. Remember the hysteria and hype over putative Russian interference in the 2016 presidential elections?
I would argue that these corporations are akin to states, albeit without identifiable territories. In the past, rulers required land to provide wealth and soldiers in order to gain and hold power. Given that there are now other means of acquiring great wealth and influence, it is no longer necessary to hold territory in order to act like a state.
These corporations should be treated just like any other enemy state engaged in conquest, and it should be possible to declare war on them. They are effectively a newly emerged Fifth Estate, and they are determined to rule absolutely.
They are reactionaries, anti-enlightenment thugs, with one goal, one purpose: the preservation of their existence. Blockchain and its decentralization must be destroyed; closed networks; big entry barriers; ridicolously long patents; big firewalls, identity verification, top-down control, and big agenda's planned at an anti-democratic and anti-capitalist forum -- they will anything and everything that will preserve their size and power and influence over society; they are "globalist" in every sense of the word, and perhaps the biggest threat to liberty worldwide since the old globalist catholic order. They represent a return to the anti-science dogma that lockean and kantian ethics so powerfully liberated us from. But the age of those great thinkers are long gone; today, all we have are radical academics, psuedo intellectuals, mumbling and bumbling and prattling and babbling down Massachusetts Avenue.
Like John Gotti and Al Capone, these mega gangsters are on the march, using their social justice foot soldiers to pummel everyone into submission.
Do you really think this BEGINS in our Universities? This begins with the garbage children are fed by "leftist" teachers in Elementary and Secondary schools and reinforced in popular culture. While I agree that what is going on in our Universities is problematic ( how about free speech?!). the problem is far more deeply seeded.
The institutions which train teachers have been ideologically captured by the far left. Aspiring teachers are indoctrinated into the quasi-religious, Marxist ideology of Paolo Freire, a Brazilian Marxist linked to Liberation Theology. The result is that generations of children have had their education stolen from them and replaced with cult beliefs.
How about starting with home. Parental attitudes influence children.
This has started. From an email from today's NY Daily News: "New York University’s student bar association voted to start the removal process of president Ryna Workman after she defended the Palestinian militant group Hamas’ deadly attack on Israeli civilians as “necessary” in a school-wide email."
I wholeheartedly disagree with their statements in support of Hamas... but doxxing students is not the answer - that only encourages more violence and you know it far too well. Shame on you. They already signed who they are through the organizations that signed the statements. Look up the members if you want to dox them.
Don’t shame the Professor. This is the time when humanity has to decide if they are going to support the beginning of another holocaust. Speak for those exterminated from the nazi gas chambers and death camps. What do you think they would have decided? Do you think they would have chosen to identify the nazi sympathizers at the onset of the slaughter and saved lives? Speak for the sacredness of life for every human being on earth, especially now for our Jewish brothers and sisters. Speak for the little tiny helpless infants gruesomely murdered by satanic barbarians. Have you ever agreed that we as citizens of the world would never let the holocaust happen again? College students are adults, we are tired of them ranting and raving about social Justice, labeling anyone who doesn’t publicly support them as racists, bigots or nazis. One famous trope of theirs is “silence is violence”. Well let’s listen.....Speak up and declare your support for good or cower with the evil. We have every right to call out these young adults who are playing with the dangerous idea that Jews are unworthy of their love or empathy. These universities, their bias professors and their naive students have a right to speak however they choose. They are presently using some pretty violent language. They will need to face the results of their allegiance. If they are publicly identified by public information then that is their fate. We need to stop treating these students like small children or adolescents trying to find themselves.
Thank you. Very well written.
Hiring people based on their political views, or protesting outside their homes because they don't share your beliefs, sounds a lot like the BLM gangsters, and postmodernists who you are speaking out against.
I don't think stooping to their level is the appropriate course of action; asking for their names will only discourage them from saying anything publicly. It won't change the university, how they teach their students, who they sympathize with. There is a deeper problem here that doxxing doesn't solve.
Refusing to hire those who would happily mob and cancel those they disagree with sounds like fair turnaround. They certainly cannot object on principle.
There ought to be a wide lassitude on what views can be tolerated, no matter how strongly you disagree, but some allegiances are beyond the pale. Support for Hamas in the light of the atrocities they have just committed is such an intolerable position
Political views are an indication of an individuals work prefomance and employer/employee relationships. Will the individual respect authority and coworkers? Create a positive work environmnent or consistently cause problems? Will he/she respect the religious beliefs of coworkers? If the answer is no, that employee could potentially open the employer up to an lawsuit. I would never hire someone who defended and supported Hamas!
I’m sure many would not release their names because they don’t actually believe what the group is saying is their own stance. They know the idea of approving of atrocities is absurd. But they need the group.
You’re nuancing.
I struggle with that too, but the bottom line they are the ones who went public with their support. So it's not so much doxxing as it is amplifying their own words. I certainly am 100% lynch mobs, proverbial or otherwise. Their person data such as email, phone, address should not be published. But holding up the doc and saying. This person said this or that.
That said, I'd prefer just debating them.
Right, as ever, Prof. Dershowitz ! It is a pleasure to read your work !
Clive Delmonte
I agree completely. That has been done to so many people by the ones who are supporting Hamas. The amount of people that have been shamed, loss their jobs and crucified in the press or SM for holding views these people don’t agree with is abhorrent. “What’s good for the goose is good for the gander!”
Incredible this is the thought in our higher institutions. Where has academics gone wrong? How do we deprogram these students before they enter our government institutions?
Think about this. How easy could someone puppet another unto violence by using their religious beliefs to make them extreme? The 5th Pillar of Islam. Who hasn't achieved it because they live in the Gaza Strip?
Still pondering all this but I do believe that the "marketplace of ideas" can be maintained without revealing the names of the signers.
In other words, let them continue their anonymity through cowardice. Imagine the signers of the Declaration of Independence demanding anonymity.
They had their scared honor to pledge, at least.
They did; and they were honorable men. Those who support the dishonorable are themselves dishonorable.
I think it’s important for us Jews to know who wants us dead. I don’t want her working on my behalf as an attorney, neither do the Jewish doctors at work.