"Ukrainian citizens conducted pogroms and mass killings of Jews. One of the worst offenders was Bohdan Khmelnytsky who several hundred years ago murdered tens of thousands of Jewish women, babies, and men"
A more fitting example is Simon Petliura, who led a Ukrainian State in the aftermath of the Russian Revolution and is revered in today's Ukraine. Petliura's gangs were responsible for almost half of the Jewish victims during the Russian Civil War pogroms, even though they were only a small portion of the White Russian forces.
Petliura escaped to Paris, where he was killed in the early 1920s by a Ukrainian Jew, in revenge for all the pogroms he had instigated. In a spectacular trial, his killer was acquitted on grounds of self-defense. Viktor Yuschenko laid a wreath at Petliura's grave in Paris during a state visit in 2005.
Since 2015, Ukraine has made it illegal to criticize "anyone who fought for Ukrainian independence", including Petliura and all the Ukrainian Nazi collaborators. It is one of the few laws the Ukrainian government seems to enforce.
It's hard to take a guy who walks around in sweatpants and uses steroids seriously. There is an old saying that If it looks like a duck, swims like a duck, and quacks like a duck, then it probably is a duck. He appears to be a thug, and I think the independent journalism in Donbas has shown the world, very clearly, that his regime and/or elements that he cannot control, have been shelling those people for the last eight years.
An inconvenient truth that the media and our leaders try so hard to whitewash and conceal is the prevalence of Nazi ideology in Ukraine. Yet, all of a sudden it's the current thing to display just how much one supports Ukraine. A testament to the effectiveness of state propaganda.
You are absolutely correct and I am well aware of the situation. This factual story is largely ignored by Western main stream media and always swept under the rug. My wife's father was a WW2 veteran that participated in the liberation of concentration camps in Germany and he had no love for Ukrainians, as they were the camp guards. Since we've been married for 53 years, I have known about this for decades.
"Ukraine is not a Nazi state; it is a state that elected a Jew as president"
Zelensky, is Jewish only in front of gullible Western audiences.
In Ukraine he knows far better: in January 2020 Yad Vashem held a special program to commemorate the 75th anniversary of the liberation of Auschwitz. More than 40 world leaders attended, including Putin who gave a speech about the 500,000 Soviet Jews who served in the Red Army.
Although Zelensky was in Israel at that time, he refused to attend the event, citing some excuse about ceding his seat to a survivor. Far more likely that this shrewd politician understood how it would play in today's Ukraine to give a speech in Jerusalem about the 1 million Ukrainian Jews, mostly murdered inside Ukraine with the active help of Ukrainian militias glorified in today's Ukraine.
A lot of people that supported Bosnia's unilateral secession on the basis of self determination, don't support Donbas's unilateral secession on the basis of self determination. I find that quite contradictory. We also have to recognize that the United States spent over 5B dollars overthrowing Yanukovych ; That figure, incidentally, is a number I read elsewhere so I cannot confirm the accuracy, but nevertheless there was an effort to remove a sitting president. If Texas overwhelming voted Trump, and he was forcibly removed by Russian funded protesters before his term ended, then one would imagine Texas, like Donbas, might secede. Kiev also violated the Minsk agreement; there are a number independent videos showing Donbas being shelled into submission; I don't know if those are neo-nazi's, or if they are part of the Kiev regime, but clearly the Minsk agreement was violated. I'd prefer a debate over this issue, with real analysis as opposed to gung ho statements from politicians and writing blank checks to continue a civil war that only causes unnecessary destruction and deaths.
"Ukrainian citizens conducted pogroms and mass killings of Jews. One of the worst offenders was Bohdan Khmelnytsky who several hundred years ago murdered tens of thousands of Jewish women, babies, and men"
A more fitting example is Simon Petliura, who led a Ukrainian State in the aftermath of the Russian Revolution and is revered in today's Ukraine. Petliura's gangs were responsible for almost half of the Jewish victims during the Russian Civil War pogroms, even though they were only a small portion of the White Russian forces.
Petliura escaped to Paris, where he was killed in the early 1920s by a Ukrainian Jew, in revenge for all the pogroms he had instigated. In a spectacular trial, his killer was acquitted on grounds of self-defense. Viktor Yuschenko laid a wreath at Petliura's grave in Paris during a state visit in 2005.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Schwartzbard_trial
Since 2015, Ukraine has made it illegal to criticize "anyone who fought for Ukrainian independence", including Petliura and all the Ukrainian Nazi collaborators. It is one of the few laws the Ukrainian government seems to enforce.
https://archive.kyivpost.com/article/content/war-against-ukraine/osce-says-new-anti-communist-laws-in-ukraine-potential-threat-to-freedom-of-speech-388921.html
It's hard to take a guy who walks around in sweatpants and uses steroids seriously. There is an old saying that If it looks like a duck, swims like a duck, and quacks like a duck, then it probably is a duck. He appears to be a thug, and I think the independent journalism in Donbas has shown the world, very clearly, that his regime and/or elements that he cannot control, have been shelling those people for the last eight years.
An inconvenient truth that the media and our leaders try so hard to whitewash and conceal is the prevalence of Nazi ideology in Ukraine. Yet, all of a sudden it's the current thing to display just how much one supports Ukraine. A testament to the effectiveness of state propaganda.
You are absolutely correct and I am well aware of the situation. This factual story is largely ignored by Western main stream media and always swept under the rug. My wife's father was a WW2 veteran that participated in the liberation of concentration camps in Germany and he had no love for Ukrainians, as they were the camp guards. Since we've been married for 53 years, I have known about this for decades.
"Ukraine is not a Nazi state; it is a state that elected a Jew as president"
Zelensky, is Jewish only in front of gullible Western audiences.
In Ukraine he knows far better: in January 2020 Yad Vashem held a special program to commemorate the 75th anniversary of the liberation of Auschwitz. More than 40 world leaders attended, including Putin who gave a speech about the 500,000 Soviet Jews who served in the Red Army.
Although Zelensky was in Israel at that time, he refused to attend the event, citing some excuse about ceding his seat to a survivor. Far more likely that this shrewd politician understood how it would play in today's Ukraine to give a speech in Jerusalem about the 1 million Ukrainian Jews, mostly murdered inside Ukraine with the active help of Ukrainian militias glorified in today's Ukraine.
https://www.timesofisrael.com/this-crime-had-accomplices-full-text-of-vladimir-putin-holocaust-forum-speech/
The Ukrainians aided and abetted the Nazis very enthusiasically
A lot of people that supported Bosnia's unilateral secession on the basis of self determination, don't support Donbas's unilateral secession on the basis of self determination. I find that quite contradictory. We also have to recognize that the United States spent over 5B dollars overthrowing Yanukovych ; That figure, incidentally, is a number I read elsewhere so I cannot confirm the accuracy, but nevertheless there was an effort to remove a sitting president. If Texas overwhelming voted Trump, and he was forcibly removed by Russian funded protesters before his term ended, then one would imagine Texas, like Donbas, might secede. Kiev also violated the Minsk agreement; there are a number independent videos showing Donbas being shelled into submission; I don't know if those are neo-nazi's, or if they are part of the Kiev regime, but clearly the Minsk agreement was violated. I'd prefer a debate over this issue, with real analysis as opposed to gung ho statements from politicians and writing blank checks to continue a civil war that only causes unnecessary destruction and deaths.
The worship of Nazi collaborators in today's Ukraine is summarized in the failed diplomatic efforts by Israel and Poland to have them sidelined
https://www.timesofisrael.com/israel-urges-ukraine-to-remove-nazi-collaborators-from-its-list-of-heroes/
How easy it was to read articles like that before the Russian invasion of Ukraine and the ensuing censorship in the West!
Important history. Thank you for the article.
Mirror, mirror on the War,
We see it here on our own shore.
Our politics are infused with terror,
Yet Americans will ignore this error:
"A vote's a vote", a man once said,
"Good people too," while one lay dead...
Nazis brooked through party's door?
America has seen this tale before.