We have no business fueling a war that Ukraine can’t win without sending in NATO troops. In addition I’m sure you know that we have bio weapons factories throughout Ukraine which is why Putin is bombing there. Would you like Russia to have bio weapons factories in Cuba?
The way I see it, this is a regional civil war between two former Soviet States. It was provoked by an aggressive NATO, forcing Russia to secure its borders. If one is to poke a bear, expect to get mauled. America, Canada or any European Nation have no business getting involved into a regional war that Ukraine cannot win. Russia, after the USA, is the world's second biggest producer of weapons, they will never run out of missiles. Ukraine is next door to Russia, so they don't have far to go, logistics aren't a problem. US sanctions have done nothing, Russia's GDP has not faltered, new customers for their products have been found in China and India, which shun the Western world. Putin approval rating in Russia is about 80% positive, compare that to US leadership approval ratings. Most areas taken by Russia so far, have a dominant ethnic Russian population, they approve. Funding and supplying Ukraine will only expand and prolong the war, more will die. The potential for an escalation is very real...Russia is still a significant nuclear power...best to stay out of it otherwise America's involvement will only increase. This is how the Vietnam quagmire started: send supplies, then training, then support troops, etc..
President Zelensky's job is to do his best to achieve the interests of his nation. Since he's facing a war he can not win on his own, right now, those interests require doing everything possible to pull NATO in on his side. This is an existential threat to Ukraine, and he must be willing to say or do absolutely anything (including lie) to prevent the destruction of his country. I would expect nothing less from my own President facing a similar crisis.
However, those are not our interests. While it's certainly beneficial to Ukraine if NATO gets into a shooting war with Russia , my President needs to ask if it's beneficial to America. Ukraine may want regime change in Moscow, but is it in American interests to hope that the world's largest stockpile of man-portable nuclear weapons survives two coups in 1 lifetime? No. It is not. On either count.
No one in Washington actually gives a damn about Ukraine's borders or sovereignty or territorial integrity. Why aren't we talking about Armenian territorial integrity? Azerbaijan invaded and seized 1/4 of its neighbor's territory in the last year... with the help of Turkey (a NATO state!)... crickets from Washington. If "the international order" is so important, why aren't we arming the Armenians with tanks and F-16s? The hypocrisy here is just too clear.
We could have given Putin an offramp many times over the last year; we have foolishly refused. Whether he would take one now (having repulsed the Ukrainian "spring offensive" and flush with new weapons from N. Korea for his own) is doubtful. But Zelensky's insistence that he will not discuss peace until Russia surrenders everything incl Crimea is simply absurd. If it takes cutting off his ammo supply for a while to get him to be serious, we must do it. Peace is always a bitter pill for the loser (never heard of the Treaty of Trianon... the Hungarians still complain about it today) but it must be swallowed.
Russia may not have won, but Ukraine has lost. The only goal now is to stop people dying. The largest obstacle to that goal is named Volodymyr Zelensky. And the second largest is probably named Joe Biden.
WAKE UP DERSHOWITZ.......Zelensky is not someone to admire.....your premises are always wrong because you have not moved into today’s world.....WAKE UP and know that Russia however many wrongs they have committed is on the right side of history with the Ukraine and that we should be helping our own countrymen and stopping the illegals on the border...I can hardly pay my bills ..... and my rent is still going up..........just recently thousands of Venezuelans were let in....WAKE UP YOU ARE ON THE WRONG SIDE OF HISTORY IF YOU EVEN KNOW YOUR HISTORY WHICH YOU OBVIOUSLY DO NOT....
We should have been pushing for peace, but no, the war machine blew that up. All they had to do was say, "No, Ukraine, you can't be part of NATO."
Where are the peacemakers, anyway? I'm sorry for the people, but we have enough of our own problems. Perhaps you should look at the invasion at our southern border. Or the crime in our cities.
In my view, Donbas has a right to self determination. The United States should not involve itself in a civil war, nor should we have spent billions funding the overthrow of Yanukovych - an elected president that most people in Donbas supported.
You always speak about putting the shoe on the other foot.
This is the equivalent of Russia spending billions to overthrow Trump or Biden, Texas or California then seceding, and being shelled for eight years from Washington, then calling on Mexico for support.
Once again, we are the catalyst for the conflict and strife, and Kiev, because they refuse to abide by the Minsk agreement, have now forced Russia to involve itself. We are like the goddess Eris. From Iraq, to Libya, to Ukraine and Syria, we are responsible.
showing that anti-Semitism in today's Ukraine runs deeper, is more widespread and remains every bit as virulent as it ever was.
There won't be much Ukrainian criticism of its past anti-Semitic leaders because that's been a crime there since 2015; it's one of the few laws Ukraine bothers to take seriously: https://www.osce.org/fom/158581
I won't squander my tax dollars on Ukraine: many better causes around, including fostering democracy in Cuba and Venezuela.
Update: it was disheartening to see the Canadian Parliament, during Zelensky's visit, give a standing ovation to Yaroslav Gunka, a Ukrainian immigrant and veteran on the SS Division "Galicia". The conflict in Ukraine is causing Western democracies to whitewash Nazi and neo-Nazi individuals solely because they fight for Ukraine:
What is the end game here? Does anyone know? Why are we paying most of the freight for this war and not Europe? What about our wide open southern border with millions and millions of criminal illegal aliens pouring across? What about the war on the other side of the border involving Mexican drug cartels who are killing tens of thousands of our youth every year? How about our 33 trillion dollar national debt with spending out of control? Is not dealing with.Communist China more important?
While I can agree with Mr. Dershwitz points, I do not spport the free flow of money, most of which is not supporting Ukraine but is being laundered into elite pockets, while Americans are being invaded and can't pay their own bills let alone our huge national debt. Biden even sent someone to destroy a peace deal between Ukraine and Russia! There are more elements to this issue than what is on the surface.
This is a surprisingly shallow analysis from such a great mind!
Is Russia's invasion "unprovoked military action" or a final response to repeated actions to place NATO missiles on Russia's border?
Please consider inviting Columbia Professor Jeffrey Sachs to a discussion of history leading to the Ukraine war. I suspect many of your followers would enjoy it. I certainly would!
Yes, my heart breaks in pieces for the precious Ukrainian people! But do you think this is part of "The Economic Forum's" mad quest to transform the world into an AI transhuman utopia? Something to consider.
We have no business fueling a war that Ukraine can’t win without sending in NATO troops. In addition I’m sure you know that we have bio weapons factories throughout Ukraine which is why Putin is bombing there. Would you like Russia to have bio weapons factories in Cuba?
What about Chinese "gain of function research" at Wuhan laboratory.
funded by Fauci and Collins, which has killed more than 25 million plus people worldwide? Do you find this troubling?
Bioweapon labs in both countries and both funded by the United States.
Of course, it is troubling.
Ukraine is NOT a democracy. Anything but.
Obama and the current globalist regime players were the ones that provoked Russia to invade Ukraine.
Ukraine war funding is a huge grift w/o any oversight.
Yes!
The way I see it, this is a regional civil war between two former Soviet States. It was provoked by an aggressive NATO, forcing Russia to secure its borders. If one is to poke a bear, expect to get mauled. America, Canada or any European Nation have no business getting involved into a regional war that Ukraine cannot win. Russia, after the USA, is the world's second biggest producer of weapons, they will never run out of missiles. Ukraine is next door to Russia, so they don't have far to go, logistics aren't a problem. US sanctions have done nothing, Russia's GDP has not faltered, new customers for their products have been found in China and India, which shun the Western world. Putin approval rating in Russia is about 80% positive, compare that to US leadership approval ratings. Most areas taken by Russia so far, have a dominant ethnic Russian population, they approve. Funding and supplying Ukraine will only expand and prolong the war, more will die. The potential for an escalation is very real...Russia is still a significant nuclear power...best to stay out of it otherwise America's involvement will only increase. This is how the Vietnam quagmire started: send supplies, then training, then support troops, etc..
President Zelensky's job is to do his best to achieve the interests of his nation. Since he's facing a war he can not win on his own, right now, those interests require doing everything possible to pull NATO in on his side. This is an existential threat to Ukraine, and he must be willing to say or do absolutely anything (including lie) to prevent the destruction of his country. I would expect nothing less from my own President facing a similar crisis.
However, those are not our interests. While it's certainly beneficial to Ukraine if NATO gets into a shooting war with Russia , my President needs to ask if it's beneficial to America. Ukraine may want regime change in Moscow, but is it in American interests to hope that the world's largest stockpile of man-portable nuclear weapons survives two coups in 1 lifetime? No. It is not. On either count.
No one in Washington actually gives a damn about Ukraine's borders or sovereignty or territorial integrity. Why aren't we talking about Armenian territorial integrity? Azerbaijan invaded and seized 1/4 of its neighbor's territory in the last year... with the help of Turkey (a NATO state!)... crickets from Washington. If "the international order" is so important, why aren't we arming the Armenians with tanks and F-16s? The hypocrisy here is just too clear.
We could have given Putin an offramp many times over the last year; we have foolishly refused. Whether he would take one now (having repulsed the Ukrainian "spring offensive" and flush with new weapons from N. Korea for his own) is doubtful. But Zelensky's insistence that he will not discuss peace until Russia surrenders everything incl Crimea is simply absurd. If it takes cutting off his ammo supply for a while to get him to be serious, we must do it. Peace is always a bitter pill for the loser (never heard of the Treaty of Trianon... the Hungarians still complain about it today) but it must be swallowed.
Russia may not have won, but Ukraine has lost. The only goal now is to stop people dying. The largest obstacle to that goal is named Volodymyr Zelensky. And the second largest is probably named Joe Biden.
No more money for Ukraine, we have too many Americans that need help and our border is wide open!
WAKE UP DERSHOWITZ.......Zelensky is not someone to admire.....your premises are always wrong because you have not moved into today’s world.....WAKE UP and know that Russia however many wrongs they have committed is on the right side of history with the Ukraine and that we should be helping our own countrymen and stopping the illegals on the border...I can hardly pay my bills ..... and my rent is still going up..........just recently thousands of Venezuelans were let in....WAKE UP YOU ARE ON THE WRONG SIDE OF HISTORY IF YOU EVEN KNOW YOUR HISTORY WHICH YOU OBVIOUSLY DO NOT....
We should have been pushing for peace, but no, the war machine blew that up. All they had to do was say, "No, Ukraine, you can't be part of NATO."
Where are the peacemakers, anyway? I'm sorry for the people, but we have enough of our own problems. Perhaps you should look at the invasion at our southern border. Or the crime in our cities.
I disagree.
In my view, Donbas has a right to self determination. The United States should not involve itself in a civil war, nor should we have spent billions funding the overthrow of Yanukovych - an elected president that most people in Donbas supported.
You always speak about putting the shoe on the other foot.
This is the equivalent of Russia spending billions to overthrow Trump or Biden, Texas or California then seceding, and being shelled for eight years from Washington, then calling on Mexico for support.
Once again, we are the catalyst for the conflict and strife, and Kiev, because they refuse to abide by the Minsk agreement, have now forced Russia to involve itself. We are like the goddess Eris. From Iraq, to Libya, to Ukraine and Syria, we are responsible.
" Russia, too, has a deeply blemished past when it comes to bigotry"
Past certainly, in many sectors of society today, but definitely not at the very highest level:
https://www.timesofisrael.com/putin-attends-unveiling-of-moscows-first-major-holocaust-monument/
https://www.jpost.com/Diplomacy-and-Politics/Putin-Peres-unveil-Netanya-memorial-honoring-Red-Army
Not so Ukraine, as was easily found before war censorship began:
https://thehill.com/opinion/international/359609-the-reality-of-neo-nazis-in-the-ukraine-is-far-from-kremlin-propaganda/
"There are still symbols of antisemitism throughout Ukraine, most disturbingly the statue at Kiev of the Cossack leader, Bogdan Chmelnitzki,"
And more recent ones, like Stepan Bandera Avenue, one of the largest in Kiev, renamed so in 2016:
https://www.timesofisrael.com/kiev-renames-major-street-to-honor-russian-nazi-collaborator/
showing that anti-Semitism in today's Ukraine runs deeper, is more widespread and remains every bit as virulent as it ever was.
There won't be much Ukrainian criticism of its past anti-Semitic leaders because that's been a crime there since 2015; it's one of the few laws Ukraine bothers to take seriously: https://www.osce.org/fom/158581
I won't squander my tax dollars on Ukraine: many better causes around, including fostering democracy in Cuba and Venezuela.
Update: it was disheartening to see the Canadian Parliament, during Zelensky's visit, give a standing ovation to Yaroslav Gunka, a Ukrainian immigrant and veteran on the SS Division "Galicia". The conflict in Ukraine is causing Western democracies to whitewash Nazi and neo-Nazi individuals solely because they fight for Ukraine:
https://www.breitbart.com/europe/2023/09/24/zelensky-and-trudeau-give-soldier-who-reportedly-fought-for-nazi-germany-a-standing-ovation/
What is the end game here? Does anyone know? Why are we paying most of the freight for this war and not Europe? What about our wide open southern border with millions and millions of criminal illegal aliens pouring across? What about the war on the other side of the border involving Mexican drug cartels who are killing tens of thousands of our youth every year? How about our 33 trillion dollar national debt with spending out of control? Is not dealing with.Communist China more important?
While I can agree with Mr. Dershwitz points, I do not spport the free flow of money, most of which is not supporting Ukraine but is being laundered into elite pockets, while Americans are being invaded and can't pay their own bills let alone our huge national debt. Biden even sent someone to destroy a peace deal between Ukraine and Russia! There are more elements to this issue than what is on the surface.
Nope. Time to stop playing this game and end funding of this undeclared war. It’s bankrupting us and the fascists want it that way.
This is a surprisingly shallow analysis from such a great mind!
Is Russia's invasion "unprovoked military action" or a final response to repeated actions to place NATO missiles on Russia's border?
Please consider inviting Columbia Professor Jeffrey Sachs to a discussion of history leading to the Ukraine war. I suspect many of your followers would enjoy it. I certainly would!
Yes, my heart breaks in pieces for the precious Ukrainian people! But do you think this is part of "The Economic Forum's" mad quest to transform the world into an AI transhuman utopia? Something to consider.